Shorting

Lets see...I know that house prices are going to collapse...so I sell your house...You are oblivious that I have sold your house...and when house prices collapse I buy your house back...the difference between what I sold your house for and what I bought it back for is the profit...

That is short selling...

Shorting a stock...basically the same is done...The brokerages hold all the stock certificates that you supposedly have bought and own...I know that the stocks that you have bought and supposedly own are going to go down in value significantly...So I tell your broker to sell your stocks that you think you own...and then the price drops and I buy them all back...you are oblivious that this is going on...

The brokerages themselves sell stocks you supposedly own and obtain profits like this...you get nothing for the use by the brokerage of your stocks that you bought and supposedly own...

Same thing is done in commodities and currency markets when you don't take delivery...all the silver or gold in the vault or dollars yen and euro's in the ledgers that you supposedly have bought and own is sold to other tards that are buying it and think they own it...

That's short selling...in case you were unaware or needed a reminder.

As far as I can tell shorting stock is a legal activity so until it's made illegal it's moral. But rules of a game that turn something that is wrong into something that is right does not make something that is wrong right...I don't short stocks or anything...I buy things and then sell things...I don't sell things that I don't own.

But of course according to the rules of the game you are allowed to sell something that does not belong to you for fun and profit. You are selling something that someone else has bought and supposedly owns...no rabbit hole...sorry. But again according to the rules of the free market game...You are allowed to sell something that does not belong to you for fun and profit...

The only people that are crying about the expose of short selling are those who obtain fun and profit from it...

The top does all the buying and selling...the bottom speculates...when the end comes and maximum potential inflation is reached...the top will short sell everything you think you own to oblivion...and then buy it all back up again when you all have to sell it to survive...

Because like all things the "sheeple" are unaware of...if they were aware...they would demand a stop be put to it...But that would make a whole pile of people unhappy since their fun and profits would stop...

Long gold and silver and short the dollar.

Unless you are buying gold and silver and taking delivery and taking US dollars from your pocket and selling them into into the global currency market for another currency and taking delivery of it...You are actually buying gold and silver that belongs to someone else and selling dollars that belong to someone else...Ultimately that someone else is the top...Who do all the buying and selling...

And when the end comes and maximum potential inflation is reached...the top will short sell everything you think you own to oblivion...and then buy it all back up again when you have to sell it to survive...DUH.

The bottom speculates...you are attempting to out speculate each other at the bottom...for fun and profit...The top does not speculate...they are buying when the bottom is selling and selling when the bottom is buying...

The markets are not markets...sure they are called that...But If they were called greater fool games which is what they are...then people would be aware of what was going on...

So it's good that the fools and the fools that think they are not fools are oblivious...or they would demand a stop be put to it...

But as long as the game players are oblivious that the game they are playing is unwinnable they will continue playing, believing they are winning and going to win until they arrive at the logical conclusion...the logical conclusion of any game is game over...

And then the game players find out that they were losers the instant they choose to play...since the top wins the game the top created by default.

And when the end comes and maximum potential inflation is reached...the top will short sell everything you think you own to oblivion...and then buy it all back up again when you all have to sell it to survive when you all default...DUH.

The top then invites the game players to play again...for fun and profit.

Ultimately it's only immoral if you lose the game...as long as you winning the game it's moral...

So until game over arrives the winners including those that think they are winning will laugh and the losers will cry...

Of course those that think they are winning and telling the losers to go to hell and laughing will lose when game over arrives and then bawl about it then...

Been like this for 1000's of years...

I phone a broker up and say I would like to short 1000 shares of xyz company...The brokerages hold all the stock certificates that everyone has bought unless you demand delivery and hold them yourself...lets say you have bought 1000 shares of xyz company...Well the broker sells them because I'm going to eventually buy them back...Like just after the shares in xyz company drop in price significantly...

Lets say the broker sold all of your shares at $10 per share...and then lets say the price starts dropping and you decide to sell them and obtain $8...

But I buy them all for $8 per share and gain $2000 from the sale of your shares and you lose $2000 from the sale of your shares...

That's shorting...

There's of course margin...I do have to have collateral backing up the sale of your stock...usually 50%...meaning I have collateral equal to the shares being sold...

Like a whole pile of other stocks backing the short sale of your stocks...But all those stocks I supposedly own could easily be short sold into the market too...by another speculator...another game player...another gambler...

another crumb seeker.

And as long as the system continues to inflate by the required amount the game keeps going...But when the system reaches maximum potential inflation the top short sell everything everyone thinks they own...to oblivion...

You've heard of market crashes...that's what happens when all the game players run out of money to blow playing the game for fun and profit and the top is forced to end it...by selling everything they own and have lent to the game players to play with...

Of course on paper you appear to own stuff...but those that actually have it can do as they please with it...you left it in their care...they are responsible for it...They can sell as soon as you have bought it and then buy it back when you demand to sell it...

The top will sell everything you think you own long before you decide it's a good idea to...

The top does all the buying and selling...the bottom speculates...or places bets...and the betting causes the prices of all the stuff the top owns to rise or drop and the top sells and buys accordingly...

They also have other resources they have used their profits to construct like stock market infomercials/CNBC to encourage the speculators to buy what they are selling and sell what they are buying...

But as long as the game players are oblivious that the game they are playing is unwinnable they will continue playing beliving they are winning and going to win until they arrive at the logical conclusion...the logical conclusion of any game is game over...

And then the game players find out that they were losers the instant they choose to play...since the top wins the game the top created by default.

Ultimately it's only immoral if you lose the game...as long as you are winning the game it's moral...

So until game over arrives the winners including those that think they are winning will laugh and the losers will cry...

Of course those that think they are winning and telling the losers to go to hell and laughing will lose when game over arrives and then bawl about it then...

We was robbed..sob whine...boo hoo...etc...but no one has a gun to your head forcing you to play the game...

I think I'm winning therefore I am...

I just don't play the game so there is no possibility of losing...the top does not play the game either...all the speculators do...the game players...the gamblers...

Just as the top is forced to fire/lay you off you when you can no longer produce more than you cost to employ...the top lives off the bottom...And again...The only people that are crying about the expose of short selling are those who obtain fun and profit from it...

I don't do it because I know it's wrong...Covering? Yes it all looks good on paper until the collateral backing the loan of other people's stock is short sold to oblivion...

During the inflationary phase it's he who gains the most that wins...during the deflationary period it's he who loses the least that wins...There has not been a deflationary period in the USA in 74 years...temporary prosperity...generally lasted for a few years prior to 1900...the roaring 20's was the second longest temporary prosperity...This one is easily 6 decades long...

Moral and Immoral? Please...The days are long gone when people were capable of figuring that out...

Immoral

"Not in conformity with accepted principles of right and wrong behavior"

I know that selling something that does not belong to me for fun and profit is moral.

I know that selling something that does not belong to me for fun and profit is immoral.

Which is true (right) and which is false (wrong)?

But if I choose the one I don't want to that means I'm Immoral...so I have to choose the other one...because Immorality is bad and I want to be good...

That's why it's moral...It just has to be...period end of story.